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Gear Adjustment problems
    Hi there am new to the forum and guess what i have a problem have an old
Raleigh pioneer 21 that i cant bear to part with. Especially after some bad experience with brand new bikes anyway just put on a brand new old stock derailleur and cable connected to early shimano rapid fire shifters if i set it up to go from 1 to 7 smoothly but wont go from 7 to 1 and vice versa have a cycle haynes manual and set it up by the book and looked on internet what everway i set it up doesnt work was the same with the old derailleur thats why i relaced it
Apr 12, 2013 09:25 AM
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RE: Gear Adjustment problems
A few things to check
- Are the shifters, gears cluster, and derailleur all compatible? (i.e. all Shimano)?
- Are you using shifter specific cable housing (or at least good quality brake housing)? Cheap housing can compress which can mess up the shifting adjustment
- Is the derailleur hanger bent (This is fairly common and even a tiny bend can have exactly the effect you're mentioning)
Apr 12, 2013 10:10 AM
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RE: Gear Adjustment problems
All looks correct, as DaveM says a bent hanger can cause the issue you have. Could you post a pic taken from the back of the bike to see if it is straight?

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Apr 12, 2013 01:12 PM
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RE: Gear Adjustment problems
(Apr 12, 2013 10:10 AM)DaveM Wrote:  A few things to check
- Are the shifters, gears cluster, and derailleur all compatible? (i.e. all Shimano)?
- Are you using shifter specific cable housing (or at least good quality brake housing)? Cheap housing can compress which can mess up the shifting adjustment
- Is the derailleur hanger bent (This is fairly common and even a tiny bend can have exactly the effect you're mentioning)

as i used old outer cable was going to try get some new ones and new cable starting to fray try that as well derailler was brand new old stock will post a pic but chain line seems straight
Apr 13, 2013 12:49 AM
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RE: Gear Adjustment problems
(Apr 13, 2013 12:49 AM)davepepper1 Wrote:  
(Apr 12, 2013 10:10 AM)DaveM Wrote:  A few things to check
- Are the shifters, gears cluster, and derailleur all compatible? (i.e. all Shimano)?
- Are you using shifter specific cable housing (or at least good quality brake housing)? Cheap housing can compress which can mess up the shifting adjustment
- Is the derailleur hanger bent (This is fairly common and even a tiny bend can have exactly the effect you're mentioning)

as i used old outer cable was going to try get some new ones and new cable starting to fray try that as well derailler was brand new old stock will post a pic but chain line seems straight

does look slightly bent


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RE: Gear Adjustment problems
due to angles it is still hard to say, the only way to know is to true the rear wheel and check it with a DAG tool.
One other note. the replacement derailluer was not the best choice. live and learn as they say and upgrade to at least an alivio or pm your address to me and I will give you a suitable used replacement that will work much better.
My goal would be to make the bike perform as close to a high end bike as possible. If you love the bike in my eyes its worth the extra dollars and a better derailluer will make a huge difference


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Apr 13, 2013 06:46 AM
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RE: Gear Adjustment problems
(Apr 13, 2013 06:46 AM)painkiller Wrote:  due to angles it is still hard to say, the only way to know is to true the rear wheel and check it with a DAG tool.
One other note. the replacement derailluer was not the best choice. live and learn as they say and upgrade to at least an alivio or pm your address to me and I will give you a suitable used replacement that will work much better.
My goal would be to make the bike perform as close to a high end bike as possible. If you love the bike in my eyes its worth the extra dollars and a better derailluer will make a huge difference

(Apr 13, 2013 08:04 AM)davepepper1 Wrote:  
(Apr 13, 2013 06:46 AM)painkiller Wrote:  due to angles it is still hard to say, the only way to know is to true the rear wheel and check it with a DAG tool.
One other note. the replacement derailluer was not the best choice. live and learn as they say and upgrade to at least an alivio or pm your address to me and I will give you a suitable used replacement that will work much better.
My goal would be to make the bike perform as close to a high end bike as possible. If you love the bike in my eyes its worth the extra dollars and a better derailluer will make a huge difference
only got that paticular one because i wasn't sure if i could use an updated deraillur with the original shifters bearing in mind the bike is over 15 years old would rather update if poss
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RE: Gear Adjustment problems
I understand, now you know that u can upgrade. From my experience with the lower derailluers such as that, Is to align the derailluer hanger even though correct the derailluer is so off that I actually have to align the hanger to the derailluer to make it work right or better. which should not be the case if the derailluer was of good quality. purposely mal-align a hanger to the derailluer? Mmm. Not good
If the chain is rubbing anywhere on the inside of the cage thru the pullys then you have an issue that needs addressed. I feel this could be your case as described above


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