Have questions or want to discuss cycling? Join Now or Sign In to participate in the BikeRide community.

New: Take Part in the Latest Thruster® Retrogade Giveaway coming soon: 5/7


Inside link falls apart when fixing
#1
I've been having a problem with a broken new chain. When I removed the broken link, the inside link falls apart. When I remove the inside link, the next inside link falls apart. Is this something wrong with the chain? I haven't had this problem in the past. I noticed that on old chains, the oil and dirt might have been holding the inside link parts together, so I wondered if that's why I didn't notice it before.

Is there a tool to hold the inside links so they don't fall apart? (I guess I could just use a vice grips.)

Thanks.
  Reply
#2
(01-04-2015, 06:28 PM)benj Wrote:  I've been having a problem with a broken new chain. When I removed the broken link, the inside link falls apart. When I remove the inside link, the next inside link falls apart. Is this something wrong with the chain? I haven't had this problem in the past. I noticed that on old chains, the oil and dirt might have been holding the inside link parts together, so I wondered if that's why I didn't notice it before.

Is there a tool to hold the inside links so they don't fall apart? (I guess I could just use a vice grips.)

Thanks.
"Where ever we go, there we are"
  Reply
#3
Sorry Benj. I was going to ask you if you were using a chain tool and then decided to let someone else answer as one of my posts was removed today. So to finish it off, have you a chain link tool? They are very inexpensive and work well.
"Where ever we go, there we are"
  Reply
#4
(01-04-2015, 08:02 PM)elmore leonard Wrote:  Sorry Benj. I was going to ask you if you were using a chain tool and then decided to let someone else answer as one of my posts was removed today. So to finish it off, have you a chain link tool? They are very inexpensive and work well.

Yes - I used the tool to remove the broken link. But when I went to put the chain back together - and to insert the inside link into the outside link, the front end of the inside link fell apart. So I removed that link to expose another inside link, and the end of it fell apart also.
  Reply
#5
You do have a link to join the two ends together? Once you push out the pin there is nothing holding the roller in place. The link will hold the roller in place. Make sure to put the U lock so the closed end is in the direction of movement

Look in the repair guide in chain and chain rings #40 for info.
Never Give Up!!!
  Reply
#6
(01-04-2015, 11:22 PM)GeorgeET Wrote:  You do have a link to join the two ends together? Once you push out the pin there is nothing holding the roller in place. The link will hold the roller in place. Make sure to put the U lock so the closed end is in the direction of movement

Look in the repair guide in chain and chain rings #40 for info.

The roller falls apart before I can put it into the links.

I know how to use a chain tool and I've repaired quite a few chains in the past and never had this problem. It sounds like this isn't a usual problem.

I wasn't using a quick release chain link.

If I recall, (I don't have the chain in front of me), the roller link has 2 rollers that are held in place by smaller sized links than the "link" link. When the chain is apart, the front roller of the roller link is held in place by the pin in the back roller. On this particular chain, the smaller links that hold the front roller in place, were able to easily move and the roller would then fall out - along with 2 tiny washers. The small links were too loose to be able insert the roller link into the "link" link without the roller falling out.

Hope that's not too confusing.
  Reply
#7
Just replace the chain - you already have more the $20- worth of aggravation in it. For 8 speed and less applications, I like KMC X8.93 , for 9 speed KMC 9.93 Because I do quite a few projects, I purchase them in 5 packs; the 8 speed is less the $50 for a five pack and the the 8 speed less than $60 for a five pack.
Nigel
  Reply
#8
I was already intending to replace the chain. Actually, I couldn't use that chain because it kept falling apart before I could join it. I ended up putting 2 old chains together and they're different sizes so I have to get another one.

I was interested in finding out if anyone else ever had this happen. I thought that maybe there was a tool to hold the roller links together.

This all started when the wind blew a plastic bag into the chain while I was riding and it got stuck in the derailleur. It ended up bending the derailleur and breaking the chain.

But thanks for the responses.
  Reply
#9
(01-06-2015, 03:02 AM)benj Wrote:  ......This all started when the wind blew a plastic bag into the chain while I was riding and it got stuck in the derailleur. It ended up bending the derailleur and breaking the chain.......

The chain must have been in awful shape for that to happen. Bending a RD is pretty easy, breaking a chain that is well maintained is very difficult.
Nigel
  Reply
#10
It actually was a fairly new chain. I don't know the manufacturer -- but it must have been a really bad one.
  Reply


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread
Author
Replies
Views
Last Post
 
3,174
09-28-2021, 08:21 PM
Last Post: Criminal
 
3,938
10-26-2020, 08:28 PM
Last Post: stanS
 
3,352
04-29-2020, 10:40 AM
Last Post: CharleyFarley
 
9,233
08-09-2017, 02:19 PM
Last Post: Desmond
 
9,838
03-18-2017, 09:35 PM
Last Post: Painkiller
 
11,853
12-04-2015, 09:41 PM
Last Post: GeorgeET
 
9,238
07-11-2015, 10:28 PM
Last Post: nfmisso
 
11,386
06-30-2015, 02:49 PM
Last Post: Painkiller
 
SpeedBikeNut32
9,632
01-20-2015, 10:02 PM
Last Post: SpeedBikeNut32

Forum Jump:

[-]
10 Latest Posts
Oakley lens peeling
Today 02:39 PM
1991 Bianchi Boardwalk - Selling advice
Today 01:21 PM
1995 Specialized Rockhopper FS Comp A1
Today 10:30 AM
Just Joined
Today 10:14 AM
Cycling in the Wind
Today 10:03 AM
New hip fracture, looking for some words...
Today 09:32 AM
Vilano Warning
05-06-2024 08:38 PM
Problems with new 3x7 trigger shifter (S...
05-04-2024 12:32 PM
Second RSX hydraulic brake caliper fails...
05-03-2024 02:34 AM
What tools have you bought recently?
05-02-2024 12:40 PM

[-]
Join BikeRide on Strava
Feel free to join if you are on Strava: www.strava.com/clubs/bikeridecom

[-]
Top 5 Posters This Month
no avatar 1. Jesper
25 posts
no avatar 2. GirishH
19 posts
no avatar 3. enkei
19 posts
no avatar 4. Amanda_W
13 posts
no avatar 5. Nutribun
13 posts